The Witness
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Thank you all for your comments. I’ll reply to them as soon as I can (sorry).
The baby and Mom are now home and doing great! They just came from a pediatrics appointment - Susanna has gained a whole ounce (applause)! She’s now 5 lb, 10 oz’s.
I’ll be posting more videos of her and the rest of the family soon.
Right now, I’d like to post a good reason to have a FaceBook. My next post will be negative against FaceBook. By the way, never start a FaceBook or any other blog without checking with your parents first if you are underage and/or still under their roof.
I was on my FaceBook the other day, which is something to blog about in and of itself since I never get on there (sorry guys). And I was playing one of the games on there. I think it was the Acbucks Pubdarts. Anyhow, it was a game with a little chat room convo underneath. Well, I couldn’t figure the dumb game out so I thought I’d join the convo with a nice icebreaker like:
Hello, does anyone believe in Heaven? Will we go there when we die?
Well, as you may know, FaceBook was/is invented and used by college-aged kids. And all they’re concerned about is what they can get out of life and such. Who wants to talk about anything after wonderful life? Boring…
Though, to my surprise, I got a few responses. I was sorta figuring they’d all blow me off but I got a few, “ah, it’s too late at night for that man,†and, “you shouldn’t think about death. They put guys like you in rehab for thinking about death all the time…†and, “why do you ask? Gonna come kill me?†and, fortunately, “yeah sure, heaven is that place I’ll go when I die.â€
Haha, seriously. I got replies of every kind. Well, as the chat when on, I found that most everyone blocked me but a few. One girl was saying that she believed in heaven and, of course, earth. But not hell or God. So I asked her. “Who made heaven? It obviously didn’t get here by chance like some think the earth did.†She wasn’t quite sure how to answer so I continued to talk. “Who made you?†She replied, “my mom.†“Hahaha, right, and her mom made her and her mom made her and so on… but that didn’t go on forever. So it all had to have started with someone. But who? Someone made the first Mom and Dad.†Well, as this went on, she finally admitted that there must be a God of some kind but promptly had to go shortly after. Which was quite unfortunate. I was glad when I asked Eric to jump into the convo with me and he did. Two ganged up on one is always better.
:D
Well, I had similar conversations with a few other people but they either ended with them blocking me or them telling me to get a life and stop talking to them. Hahaha, not too many showed a very gainful interest. That is, no one but one guy.
His name is C*******. He doesn’t believe in a God or a Hell. But he does believe in Heaven. Who created his Heaven? He himself!
He says he has never sinned (unfortunately, I don’t have that convo where he says that). Never! He has never lied or stolen or hated.
He is from
He is 17.
After a short time of explaining his beliefs and telling us to remember them, he had to go. But he wanted to contact me again; this is good news.
So, I gave him my Y! And the very next day…
Yahoo! Messenger (11/20/2007 3:03:54 PM): C******* has joined the conference.
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:04:17 PM): Hello
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:04:21 PM): Yay
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:04:24 PM): It worked
Eric Novak (11/20/2007 3:04:25 PM): hey how are you doing dude?
C******* (11/20/2007 3:04:36 PM): fine
C******* (11/20/2007 3:04:44 PM): how bout you?
Eric Novak (11/20/2007 3:04:51 PM): I’m doing good
Eric Novak (11/20/2007 3:05:17 PM): found some fun stuff for you last night
C******* (11/20/2007 3:05:24 PM): what is that?
Eric Novak (11/20/2007 3:05:31 PM): hold on, let me paste them in
Eric Novak (11/20/2007 3:06:24 PM): This is really neat; it proves that there was a maker of the universe
Eric Novak (11/20/2007 3:06:26 PM): 1). Gravity is roughly 10.39 times weaker than electromagnetism. If gravity had been 10.33 times weaker than electromagnetism, “stars would be a billion times less massive and would burn a million times faster.†2). The nuclear weak force is 10.28 times the strength of gravity. Had the weak force been slightly weaker, all the hydrogen in the universe would have been turned to helium making water impossible! 3). A stronger nuclear strong force (by as little as 2 percent) would have prevented the formation of protons – yielding a universe without atoms. Decreasing it by 5 percent would have given us a universe without stars.
C******* (11/20/2007 3:06:55 PM): I don’t think that is funny
C******* (11/20/2007 3:07:13 PM): I mean that is not fun
Eric Novak (11/20/2007 3:07:20 PM): lol, it is not supposed to be funny, it is supposed to be neat, look at it dude
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:07:26 PM): Haha, wow that is really interesting
Eric Novak (11/20/2007 3:07:37 PM): if anything had been off by a tiny bit, we wouldn’t be here!
C******* (11/20/2007 3:07:38 PM): swt…
C******* (11/20/2007 3:07:47 PM): maybe I’m not in your world
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:07:52 PM): well, that is quite amazing
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:08:11 PM): Ha-ha, well, sense we know you are…
C******* (11/20/2007 3:08:15 PM): lol
Eric Novak (11/20/2007 3:08:17 PM): Chris, we know you are in our world
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:08:19 PM): …there is no point in going there Dude
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:08:37 PM): so,
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:08:43 PM): looking above
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:08:48 PM): what do you think of that?
C******* (11/20/2007 3:08:58 PM): that is normal
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:09:03 PM): ha
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:09:08 PM): it’s amazing
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:09:11 PM): tell me
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:09:20 PM): how did that come to being?
C******* (11/20/2007 3:09:20 PM): that is normal
C******* (11/20/2007 3:09:33 PM): lol
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:09:34 PM): how did everything get placed the way it is?
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:09:37 PM): chance?
C******* (11/20/2007 3:09:53 PM): no
C******* (11/20/2007 3:10:07 PM): it is because it should be like that
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:10:10 PM): So, someone put it all there?
C******* (11/20/2007 3:10:16 PM): impossible
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:10:18 PM): it got there some how
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:10:21 PM): Space, earth
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:10:28 PM): it didn’t always exist
C******* (11/20/2007 3:10:32 PM): if someone can do so why don’t he wanna do it to another planet
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:10:55 PM): uh?
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:11:04 PM): he did that to the whole universe
C******* (11/20/2007 3:11:05 PM): just make it happen on earth
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:11:15 PM): the whole physical realm
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:11:29 PM): was created by a being much more powerful than us
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:11:39 PM): God
Eric and I had established a relationship with this guy. He was interested to hear what we had to say. I was so glad that he had questions. He couldn’t understand how it is possible for “a god†to exist (I like how Eric threw these neat little facts in). So we went on to chat further…
C******* (11/20/2007 3:11:44 PM): So, how big is He?
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:11:54 PM): size?
C******* (11/20/2007 3:11:57 PM): yes
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:12:09 PM): you are thinking in a physical mindset
Eric Novak (11/20/2007 3:12:14 PM): did you know that if you stretched out your DNA in a line it would reach to the sun and back 48 times? Chance couldn’t have made it
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:12:43 PM): Does the actual size of God matter?
Eric Novak (11/20/2007 3:12:46 PM): that is 45,000,000,000 miles of DNA!
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:12:51 PM): he is in charge of everything
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:12:53 PM): he made it all
C******* (11/20/2007 3:13:02 PM): no
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:13:02 PM): he is obviously powerful enough
C******* (11/20/2007 3:13:08 PM): it happens in chance
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:13:31 PM): ah, so it all happened by chance
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:13:33 PM): ?
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:13:36 PM): hmm
C******* (11/20/2007 3:13:38 PM): yes
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:13:48 PM): wow takes a lot of faith to believe that
Eric Novak (11/20/2007 3:14:15 PM): dude, you have 120 million rods and 7 million cones in one square inch behind your eye. How many times can you roll dice and it make that?
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:14:16 PM): ok
C******* (11/20/2007 3:14:17 PM): it is true
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:14:26 PM): so let’s just say chance set everything just the way it is
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:14:31 PM): then,
C******* (11/20/2007 3:14:57 PM): but eyes grow naturally
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:15:02 PM): how did the material
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:15:06 PM): get here?
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:15:08 PM): get made?
Eric Novak (11/20/2007 3:15:17 PM): right
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:15:21 PM): if chance poisoned it all right
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:15:32 PM): where did chance get the “stuff”
I think I made the mistake of talking too much; I should have let him lead the convo more.
So, even though I didn’t get my last question answered, we (Eric and I) let him take the convo.
C******* (11/20/2007 3:15:33 PM): I feel so upset
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:15:39 PM): you do?
C******* (11/20/2007 3:15:41 PM): you keep asking me question
C******* (11/20/2007 3:15:55 PM): and I’ve got a lot of question wanna ask too
Eric Novak (11/20/2007 3:15:56 PM): Well man, that is your conscience moving in you
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:15:56 PM): well, buddy, you asked me a lot of questions
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:16:00 PM): we’re just talking
C******* (11/20/2007 3:16:06 PM): as I follow what you guys said
C******* (11/20/2007 3:16:14 PM): I think of the God
C******* (11/20/2007 3:16:22 PM): and a lot of question exist
Eric Novak (11/20/2007 3:16:33 PM): ok, ask away, we can tell you
C******* (11/20/2007 3:16:36 PM): and I still cannot find the answer
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:17:01 PM): (but remember, you haven’t answered about the beginning of time and the existence of the physical realm)
C******* (11/20/2007 3:17:02 PM): you know any priest or someone who had more understanding about god?
I could tell he was truly interested now! I when on to answer…
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:17:26 PM): we can help you with what we know
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:17:28 PM): ask us
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:17:32 PM): and we will try
C******* (11/20/2007 3:17:33 PM): 1st how can god exist?
C******* (11/20/2007 3:17:38 PM): who create god?
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:17:45 PM): he has always existed
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:17:52 PM): it’s hard for us to think that
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:17:53 PM): way
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:17:58 PM): because we are man
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:17:59 PM): and man
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:18:07 PM): is used to a beginning and an end…
C******* (11/20/2007 3:18:12 PM): why he don’t wanna tell us in the bible?
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:18:13 PM): …so we think everything is like that
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:18:17 PM): which is true
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:18:26 PM): that is the sate of the physical realm
C******* (11/20/2007 3:18:29 PM): than how he exists
C******* (11/20/2007 3:18:44 PM): why?
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:18:51 PM): God may not answer every question
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:19:01 PM): we may not be able to understand him
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:19:04 PM): not even I…
C******* (11/20/2007 3:19:11 PM): so how should I believe him
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:19:15 PM): …we can not defend Gods position…
C******* (11/20/2007 3:19:18 PM): if I’m doubt of him
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:19:18 PM): …we are man
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:19:27 PM): and only know as much as God has it
Eric Novak (11/20/2007 3:19:36 PM): God is spiritual not physical, spiritual stuff doesn’t have an end and beginning
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:19:50 PM): right
C******* (11/20/2007 3:20:08 PM): how can spiritual stuff create physical stuff?
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:20:17 PM): only that, that is physical knows of and end and begining
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:20:26 PM): God is God
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:20:36 PM): he’s is all powerful
C******* (11/20/2007 3:20:42 PM): stop! End and beginning I don’t understand what are you talking about
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:20:52 PM): he created everything
C******* (11/20/2007 3:20:55 PM): my English is not that good enough
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:21:06 PM): Ok, I’m sorry
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:21:11 PM): what I mean
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:21:11 PM): is
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:21:17 PM): we are physical
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:21:23 PM): you know what I mean by that?
C******* (11/20/2007 3:21:28 PM): yes
Eric Novak (11/20/2007 3:21:34 PM): God is eternal. He had no origin. He is the everlasting I AM. No one “made†him. He simply IS.
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:21:37 PM): we are in this realm of atoms and matter and time
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:21:49 PM): right
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:21:59 PM): but all we know in this physical realm
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:22:01 PM): is
C******* (11/20/2007 3:22:04 PM): i don’t understand what is realm
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:22:08 PM): a beginging and an end
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:22:17 PM): we all were born and we will all die
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:22:32 PM): the earth was made and someday will be destroyed
C******* (11/20/2007 3:22:37 PM): so we’ll become spiritual?
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:22:42 PM): (even evolutionists believe that)
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:22:47 PM): well
C******* (11/20/2007 3:22:52 PM): oh thank you
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:22:56 PM): there is one little part of us that is spiritual
Eric Novak (11/20/2007 3:23:06 PM): (our souls)
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:23:07 PM): and that’s what sets us apart from animal
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:23:12 PM): we have a soul
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:23:14 PM): yes
C******* (11/20/2007 3:23:16 PM): I feel sad you say something not responsible at all
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:23:18 PM): and it IS us
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:23:23 PM): our minds
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:23:29 PM): will not cease to exist
C******* (11/20/2007 3:23:31 PM): I think you better find a priest to talk to me
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:23:39 PM): only our physical bodies
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:23:51 PM): am I not making sense?
C******* (11/20/2007 3:24:01 PM): yes
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:24:04 PM): haha
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:24:05 PM): ok
C******* (11/20/2007 3:24:15 PM): you just told me something not responsible at all
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:24:16 PM): I apologize
C******* (11/20/2007 3:24:20 PM): no
C******* (11/20/2007 3:24:26 PM): is not your false
C******* (11/20/2007 3:24:35 PM): I understand what you feel
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:24:36 PM): ok, what did I say
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:24:43 PM): that you do not know?
C******* (11/20/2007 3:24:58 PM): something I’ve experience it
C******* (11/20/2007 3:25:06 PM): and you said it not true
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:25:11 PM): ok
Eric Novak (11/20/2007 3:25:15 PM): what is that?
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:25:16 PM): what would that be?
C******* (11/20/2007 3:25:28 PM): I think I better end this convo
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:25:34 PM): oh, no
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:25:37 PM): please don’t
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:25:40 PM): I will listen
Eric Novak (11/20/2007 3:25:41 PM): please man
C******* (11/20/2007 3:25:53 PM): no, you saying something not true
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:25:55 PM): explain my fault?
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:26:08 PM): what part?
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:26:11 PM): so that I will know?
C******* (11/20/2007 3:26:19 PM): you’ll get more understand only you experience it
C******* (11/20/2007 3:26:26 PM): sorry I’m going to leave
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:26:30 PM): ok
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:26:33 PM): before you do…
C******* (11/20/2007 3:26:40 PM): you guys are never consider of what I told
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:26:45 PM): …just let me know what I said wrong
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:26:53 PM): so I’ll know for next time
Eric Novak (11/20/2007 3:26:54 PM): what did you tell us?
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:26:59 PM): this would be doing me a favor
C******* (11/20/2007 3:27:02 PM): yesterday
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:27:13 PM): oh
C******* (11/20/2007 3:27:18 PM): you said you’ll consider of what is said
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:27:21 PM): right about wasting electricity?
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:27:24 PM): yes
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:27:26 PM): I remember
Eric Novak (11/20/2007 3:27:32 PM): yep, we remember
C******* (11/20/2007 3:27:34 PM): that is not the main thing
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:27:43 PM): please tell us again
C******* (11/20/2007 3:27:56 PM): I don’t wanna waste my time here
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:28:08 PM): but it would be doing me a favor
C******* (11/20/2007 3:28:11 PM): priest and bible will tell you everything you want
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:28:12 PM): so I know next time
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:28:17 PM): it would be right of you
C******* (11/20/2007 3:28:28 PM): and they will explain to you
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:28:33 PM): please tell us once more what you beleive
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:28:46 PM): we should want to help each other
C******* (11/20/2007 3:28:50 PM): and you are not really understand what bible is
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:28:55 PM): I am willing to listen to your teaching
C******* (11/20/2007 3:29:04 PM): well you’re not
C******* (11/20/2007 3:29:10 PM): please don’t lie
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:29:11 PM): I just said I am
Eric Novak (11/20/2007 3:29:15 PM): we don’t know what it is man
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:29:24 PM): You do the talking for a while and we will listen
C******* (11/20/2007 3:29:27 PM): you never consider of what I told you yesterday
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:29:37 PM): actually I did
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:29:39 PM): I have a lot
Eric Novak (11/20/2007 3:29:41 PM): same here
C******* (11/20/2007 3:29:41 PM): just yesterday
C******* (11/20/2007 3:29:48 PM): don’t lie
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:29:51 PM): even before we talked to you
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:30:03 PM): I’ve thought about what you say
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:30:08 PM): so tell us again
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:30:13 PM): and we will listen
C******* (11/20/2007 3:30:15 PM): my brother study psychology he tells me you guys are lying
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:30:21 PM): we should want to help each other
C******* (11/20/2007 3:30:25 PM): why I should tell you again
Eric Novak (11/20/2007 3:30:33 PM): why should we lie to you?
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:30:36 PM): for our benefit
C******* (11/20/2007 3:30:37 PM): you can remember it yourself
C******* (11/20/2007 3:30:44 PM): I told you already
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:30:47 PM): because you should want to share your beliefs
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:30:56 PM): but you say that we don’t remember
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:31:00 PM): so tell us again
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:31:07 PM): and we will listen to your teaching
C******* (11/20/2007 3:31:09 PM): that mean you didn’t consider of it
C******* (11/20/2007 3:31:16 PM): that why you forgot
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:31:23 PM): actually
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:31:27 PM): I already told you
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:31:30 PM): I didn’t forget
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:31:35 PM): but you say we did
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:31:41 PM): let’s not go in circles
C******* (11/20/2007 3:31:49 PM): ok
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:31:51 PM): just teach us and we will listen to you
Eric Novak (11/20/2007 3:31:51 PM): SO if you think we forgot, then tell us again
Eric Novak (11/20/2007 3:32:01 PM): right
C******* (11/20/2007 3:32:08 PM): ok I trust you
Ok, we almost lost him there. Haha, he’s talking about the other night on Facebook. He told us some of his beliefs and told us to remember them. This was the time to let him take the convo wherever he wants.
C******* (11/20/2007 3:32:24 PM): tell me what I told you yesterday
C******* (11/20/2007 3:32:34 PM): so I can see what you’ve forgot
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:32:44 PM): ok
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:32:45 PM): sounds good
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:32:56 PM): You talked about
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:33:02 PM): heaven being the thoughts
Eric Novak (11/20/2007 3:33:06 PM): ok, you told us that we are ruining the earth by using too much electricity
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:33:18 PM): and that you will go to heaven and that you create heaven as you think it
Eric Novak (11/20/2007 3:33:19 PM): and when you die, you go to heaven in peoples minds
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:33:28 PM): right
C******* (11/20/2007 3:33:36 PM): that’s all?
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:33:36 PM): and that we should take care of the earth
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:33:40 PM): and I agree
Eric Novak (11/20/2007 3:33:46 PM): and that even bad memories are in heaven
Eric Novak (11/20/2007 3:33:53 PM): experience makes your heaven
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:33:55 PM): and that there is no hell
Eric Novak (11/20/2007 3:33:56 PM): and teaches you
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:33:58 PM): or a God
C******* (11/20/2007 3:34:06 PM): if you agree why you’re still here wasting the electricity
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:34:16 PM): for the same reason you are
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:34:20 PM): to talk to you
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:34:31 PM): this could impact each others for the rest of our lives!
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:34:33 PM): right?
C******* (11/20/2007 3:34:50 PM): I’m here because i don’t belief god
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:35:00 PM): and I’m here cause I do
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:35:01 PM):
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:35:10 PM): and i’m here to listen to you
Eric Novak (11/20/2007 3:35:14 PM): and I’m here because I want to talk to both of you! lol
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:35:15 PM): to hear what you believe
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:35:19 PM): haaha
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:35:44 PM): I want to hear what you believe, and think
C******* (11/20/2007 3:35:56 PM): I said you guys are wasting electricity and pollute the earth that mean you guys are not respect what god had make for us
Eric Novak (11/20/2007 3:36:07 PM): right, which is what I said you said
C******* (11/20/2007 3:36:14 PM): yea
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:36:22 PM): but, tell me
C******* (11/20/2007 3:36:23 PM): but I don’t believe god
Paul Suarez: who told you it pollutes the earth?
C*******: so I don’t need to save electricity and respect the thing God make
Paul Suarez: by being on the computer
Paul Suarez: it is not a waste if you pay for it and use it.
Paul Suarez: the factories that make my electricity
C*******: but same you pollute the earth
C******* that mean you’re not respect what god gv
Paul Suarez: are Dams, wind mills, and
Paul Suarez: I’m not sure how they make electricity
Paul Suarez: over there
Paul Suarez: but
Eric Novak: over here
C*******: you want to make dams, wind mill
C*******: you need material
C*******: you need to cop the tree
C*******: and make pollute
Paul Suarez: tell me, do you think that we should all stop using electricity?
C*******: yes
C*******: if you believe god
C*******: and you respect what god had gave you
Paul Suarez: do you think the
Paul Suarez: ah
Paul Suarez: ok, so then
Paul Suarez: just tell me
Paul Suarez: we told you what we remember
C*******: the main thing I wanna tell is
Paul Suarez: now tell us all your teachings
C*******: let me finish it
Paul Suarez: ok
Paul Suarez: I am listening to you
C*******: IF you believe God, you need to appreciate what god had give you ( earth), and…
C*******: and when you using electricity, you’ll pollute the earth
C*******: and
C*******: once you pollute the earth, that mean you’re not respect what god had gave you
C*******: and
C*******: you pay for the electricity and they make electricity it is same like you pay to make electricty
C*******: and you pay to pollute the earth
Eric Novak: that’s it?
C*******: I haven’t finished
Eric Novak: ok
C*******: I’ll tell you if I’m finish
Paul Suarez: ok
Paul Suarez: we listen
C*******: most of our electricity is made from fossil fuel and when you burn it, it pollute the earth
C*******: same like you’re not respect the stuff(earth, environment, animal and etc) that God give us
Eric Novak: Chris I’ve got to go, chat with Paul
C*******: well if you believe in God you should not do sin
C*******: ok
Eric Novak: Ok, thanks for chatting with us
Eric Novak: I’ll talk to you later
C*******: thanks for listening
Eric Novak: same here
Paul Suarez: but i’m still here
Eric Novak:
Eric Novak: bye
From here the convo continued to go way off the original subject. But he was leading the convo at this point so I let him.
Yahoo! Messenger (11/20/2007 3:47:14 PM): Eric Novak has left the conference.
C******* (11/20/2007 3:47:22 PM): ok you can understand what i said?
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:47:39 PM): yes, I mentally do understand but
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:47:46 PM): uh, let me read it over again
C******* (11/20/2007 3:47:50 PM): ok
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:47:51 PM): let me understand it again
C******* (11/20/2007 3:48:02 PM): and then i can only tell more
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:48:43 PM): ok, the earth recycles all matter
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:48:49 PM): you have been lied too
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:48:52 PM): i’m sorry to say
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:49:01 PM): that what you say about the earth is not true
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:49:10 PM): the earth is not PERMENTLY polluted
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:49:18 PM): because we burn coal or whatever
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:49:28 PM): do some research on the internet
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:49:31 PM): and you’ll see
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:49:39 PM): the rain cleans the earth
C******* (11/20/2007 3:49:51 PM): how about the desert?
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:49:55 PM): the global warming is a natural cycle of the earth
C******* (11/20/2007 3:50:06 PM): no
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:50:10 PM): the media is only recently freaking out about it
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:50:20 PM): making it seem like a bigger deal
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:50:38 PM): the earth recycles all matter
C******* (11/20/2007 3:50:46 PM): when you use pollute the earth it make it happen faster
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:50:52 PM): as you pollute the ground
C******* (11/20/2007 3:50:57 PM): and make it unbalance
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:51:01 PM): the ground will break it down
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:51:06 PM): as you pollute the air
C******* (11/20/2007 3:51:08 PM): people cannot stand the change too fast
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:51:15 PM): it’ll be cleaned by the rain
C******* (11/20/2007 3:51:20 PM): no
C******* (11/20/2007 3:51:30 PM): the CO2 is still there
C******* (11/20/2007 3:51:38 PM): only the dust can be clean
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:51:42 PM): “man†is too insignificant to make a global difference
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:51:47 PM): don’t you understand that
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:52:00 PM): the earth is huge our sky is huge
C******* (11/20/2007 3:52:08 PM): sorry i cannot talk to you anymore
C******* (11/20/2007 3:52:10 PM): you are too christian
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:52:11 PM): we are too small to make a difference on it
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:52:19 PM): it’ll go in its natural cycle
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:52:23 PM): we can’t stop that
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:52:26 PM): we can’t help that
C******* (11/20/2007 3:52:38 PM): we have generation gap although we are in same age
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:52:41 PM): the little bit that we “pollute” is nothing
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:52:52 PM): the news wants you to think it is tough
C******* (11/20/2007 3:52:54 PM): no it makes sense
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:53:16 PM): the news is trying to make you believe these lie’s, Dude
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:53:33 PM): I think we should take care of what god has given us
C******* (11/20/2007 3:53:34 PM): i didn’t read news
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:53:45 PM): you heard this lie from somewhere
C******* (11/20/2007 3:53:50 PM): that is one of my experience
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:53:51 PM): from school
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:53:54 PM): from tv
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:54:01 PM): from book
C******* (11/20/2007 3:54:04 PM): that is one of my experience
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:54:16 PM): you only know of this not because you have experienced it
C******* (11/20/2007 3:54:19 PM): i do experiment on it
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:54:22 PM): but only because you were told
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:54:40 PM): it’s true that you’ve experienced hoter days or whatever
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:54:44 PM): but that is natural
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:54:57 PM): and we are WAY off the subject
C******* (11/20/2007 3:55:04 PM): we’re here is always hot
C******* (11/20/2007 3:55:13 PM): summer in the whole year
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:55:16 PM): ah
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:55:36 PM): but we as people are too small for that to be our fault
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:55:46 PM): that is a natural cycle of the earth
C******* (11/20/2007 3:55:49 PM): but once we do that together
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:55:54 PM): in another few hundred years
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:56:00 PM): it might be an ice age over there
C******* (11/20/2007 3:56:01 PM): we’re become bigger for the earth
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:56:19 PM): I’m say “manâ€, in whole
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:56:22 PM): put togetter
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:56:34 PM): we do not affect the massive earth that much
C******* (11/20/2007 3:56:36 PM): the ice age will really happen
C******* (11/20/2007 3:56:41 PM): but you make it faster
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:56:46 PM): you have heard this lie from wrong people
C******* (11/20/2007 3:56:55 PM): not wrong people
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:56:57 PM): you should research it and look at both sides your self
C******* (11/20/2007 3:57:13 PM): my grandmother tell me from dream
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:57:19 PM): I do not make it any faster
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:57:23 PM): it is natural
C******* (11/20/2007 3:57:25 PM): you do
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:57:29 PM): natural
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:57:43 PM): it’ll happen by itself, Dude
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:57:52 PM): natural
C******* (11/20/2007 3:57:57 PM): btw you’re not really understanding the bible
C******* (11/20/2007 3:58:02 PM): go back and read more
C******* (11/20/2007 3:58:05 PM): reputably
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:58:06 PM): haha,
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:58:10 PM): have you?
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:58:21 PM): have you read the bible?
C******* (11/20/2007 3:58:29 PM): lol
C******* (11/20/2007 3:58:32 PM): of coz I didn’t
C******* (11/20/2007 3:58:36 PM): I mean I did
paulsuarez1 (11/20/2007 3:58:38 PM): it says God made the earth
Anyhow, it went on and on and for a moment there, it just felt like a big lousy argument. Going back and forth with this guy but finally, it rounded off.
It was great to be able to talk to this kid. He was willing to hear our views with an open mind.
And as you can see, it all ended well.
C******* (11/20/2007 4:26:20 PM): coz you’re young
C******* (11/20/2007 4:26:27 PM): at least you’re genius
C******* (11/20/2007 4:26:28 PM): lol
Paul Suarez (11/20/2007 4:26:32 PM): hahahah
Paul Suarez (11/20/2007 4:26:42 PM): well, you are very smart yourself
C******* (11/20/2007 4:27:11 PM): so tell me when you start to write those thing
I thank God for the chance that Eric and I had to witness to him. And now that he is on my Yahoo IM, I can talk to him more often.
He hasn’t started an HSB blog yet. But says he will soon.
If any of you have a FaceBook, let me know and maybe we can do a group witness of some kind.
Thanks for reading this LONG entry. This may be the longest you’ve ever stayed on my blog in one period, no?
:D
December 3rd, 2007 at 9:09 pm
It was so neat being able to witness to Chris. Lets pray that God moves in him.
Thanks for inviting me to witness with you!
Eric
December 4th, 2007 at 7:16 am
Wow, that’s great! I’ll be praying that he comes to Christ!
December 4th, 2007 at 10:41 am
Paul, it doesn’t matter if we pollute the earth or not since that’s not the matter. We are aliens, strangers, travelers passing through this place to something more important. It matters to those without Christ because they can only see the here and now. Who cares if we are using too much electricity (if you don’t care about the bill ;)), or use up all the oil? It’ll bring us Home faster!
December 4th, 2007 at 8:10 pm
Ha! Yeppers, only I got off half way and came back later to read the rest. That’s fantastic that y’all are doing this. I’ll keep this situation in prayer, and I hope you get through to him sometime.
Baby Susanna is adorable! I’m glad she’s home now. :D
-Mellie
December 4th, 2007 at 8:49 pm
Well I don’t think I agree with you there, Joe. I think that we should be good stewards and take care of what God has given us. That doesn’t mean I think we should ban electricity and oil consuming vehicles. Yes, we are just passing through, but we ought to respect what God has made while we’re here.
December 4th, 2007 at 9:02 pm
Joe, I think we should be good stewards and take care of what God has given us. That doesn’t mean I think we should ban electricity and automobiles. Yes, we are just passing through, but we ought to take care of what God has made while we’re here.
Too bad “linux rocks” doesn’t work in the little security box. :-)
December 4th, 2007 at 9:15 pm
Well said, Matt!
Joe, like I said before, I agree with this part of what you said:
“We are aliens, strangers, travelers passing through this place to something more important. It matters to those without Christ because they can only see the here and now.”
Unfortuanetely I do not agrre with you here:
“…it doesn’t matter if we pollute the earth or not since that’s not the matter.”
I appreciate you sharing your views though and we can continue to talk about this on or off the blogs.
Haha, Good Idea, Matt.
I just might add that to the security question list…
:D
December 5th, 2007 at 7:04 am
In response to Paul’s comment on my blog:
Unfortunately I don’t know a bit about web coding. I used to know a few basics like how to add text and graphics, but I know absolutely nothing about this css, php and whatever else I hear my sister talk about.
Great, now I have to type “suse 10.2″ …wait, am I giving the hackers clues?
Have you added ubuntu yet?
December 6th, 2007 at 9:39 am
Hey there dude. So glad you got to comment. I know things have been crazy there. I bet Sus is really sweet… and I believe you when you say she weighs nothing! haha
So when you coming up? Next week? Alright…. I can wait until next month, I suppose.
And yes, make a smilie for it. Isn’t he cool>>> {|:D
Hahaha….
Well, still trying to get my wordpress all setup. Eric is so busy. Doesn’t have too much time for me. I did post a few pages on my wp - just to get started.
ttyl
Jocelyn
December 6th, 2007 at 3:03 pm
Lol, dude you so should read Narnia! It is A ++
Anyway, ask me all your Narnia question. HA HA!
I’m awake now btw.
Erci
December 6th, 2007 at 7:14 pm
*LOL* @ Eric’s comment about being awake now!!
Thanks for commenting Paul…I am glad to know that Mom and baby are doing well, and are home now!! Is there anything you all need for the baby??
Great conversation…I wouldn’t be much help witnessing, even if I did have facebook, as I’m just learning myself..*L* But it’s great help to read people like you and Eric, and Jacque…
God Bless!!!
December 6th, 2007 at 7:30 pm
Well, I don’t actually have the song, but I guess I could put up a link to their Napster page. I think I will . . .
I bet the movies of Susanna are cute. :) Unfortunately I doubt if they’d ever load on my stone age connection.
Hey, you and Eric did a great job with that guy. I bet it was a really frustrating discussion. Hopefully something will come of it.
And when it comes to our little “debates”, you never make me mad. ;) I’m glad we have our disagreements, like you said “iron sharpens iron.” And if I did get ticked off with you I’d be a bit hypocritical after my last post, huh? :P
Anyway, I spent about 3 hours tonight working on my Vex robotics system that I got for Christmas last year. I built the basic bot and got it up and running. I also managed some improvements to the design which was quite flawed. I’m quite proud of that, actually. :D
Well, see ya ’round. :)
December 6th, 2007 at 9:56 pm
YOU HAVE AN AWARD!! Please come by and see.
So glad to hear about Auntie and Sus!!
RYC:
LOL!! That is funny about your aunt…
Yeah, my jaw dropped!! haha
That is so sweet about Sus. I keep trying to talk Mom into coming down to see her…
I am so happy you like her so much!! I bet she is the sweetest thing… besides Lucy of course. ; )
You are welcome for the comments… I figure you will get back to them sometime…
Thanks for the comment on SuperAngel’sblog… I will get back to you on that..
I was going to call you and talk to you about setting up our wireless.
I picked up some pc magazines from the library today… can’t wait to read them…
Well I have some thigns I want to talk to you about.. so will try to buzz you later..
Have a great time holding and enjoying that little sweety!!
Amanda
December 9th, 2007 at 8:42 pm
So when are you going to post a new entry? I’ve been waiting and waiting! ;)
Hmm, maybe I will read this post again…
Eric :P
December 9th, 2007 at 8:43 pm
Man your blog loads SOOOOO slow. You need fix it man.
Eric
December 14th, 2007 at 12:45 pm
HEY! I just read this whole thing, and it’s awesome! I’m so proud of you guys for talking to this person. I’ll be praying that there are more people that you can talk to and witness to!
God bless,
~Rachel~
December 21st, 2007 at 5:11 pm
Wow, you have done an awesome witness! Just reading that mammoth Y! conversation shows that you were getting through on some level.
Nice blog, I just started reading today, and am loving it! :-]
January 3rd, 2008 at 7:35 pm
Wow, quite an in-depth conversation! I love to talk to people who actually seem interested. It’s so discouraging when people just ignore you. I’d rather they talk, whether they’re arguing or agreeing!
~Grace
November 12th, 2008 at 1:43 pm
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